BERNIE VS JOY
COMPILATION AND COMMENTARY
BY LUCY WARNER
NOVEMBER 30, 2017


FIRST, I READ THIS ARTICLE AND THEN, CURIOUS, I SEARCHED FOR ARTICLES BY JOY-ANN REID TO SEE WHAT SHE HAD SAID ABOUT SANDERS. SHE HAS, IN FACT, BEEN INCREDIBLY HARSH IN HER COMMENTS ABOUT HIM. IN HIS WIFE’S WORDS, THAT TREATMENT FROM REID HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR SOME TWO YEARS, BEFORE BERNIE WAS EVEN IN THE RACE, MAYBE. APPARENTLY, JANE HAD JUST HAD ENOUGH. THIS IS HER RESPONSE.

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/362466-sanderss-wife-to-msnbc-reporter-dont-ever-use-me-to-demean-my-husband
Bernie Sanders's wife to MSNBC anchor: 'Don't ever use me to demean my husband'
BY MALLORY SHELBOURNE - 11/29/17 07:01 PM EST

Photograph -- Bernie Sanders's wife to MSNBC anchor: 'Don't ever use me to demean my husband' -- © Getty Images


Jane Sanders, the wife of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), blasted an MSNBC host on Wednesday after the anchor said Sanders is “an incredibly dubious prospect” as an authority figure amid the current sexual misconduct conversation.

“I didn't answer your biased reporting about Bernie during the last 2 years @JoyAnnReid. But don't ever use me to demean my husband,” Sanders wrote to “AM Joy” host Joy Reid.

Reid was engaged in a Twitter conversation earlier in the day about the credibility of men in authority positions starting to "crumble" amid a wave of sexual harassment allegations — and consequences — against men in high-profile positions.

One of Reid's followers suggested Bernie Sanders as an example of a credible male authority figure.

“Um... I get that he has a hardcore following, but his own attitudes toward women, from his weird early writings to his physical dismissal of women in his presence (including his own wife) make that an incredibly dubious prospect,” Reid responded.

“I am very happy & very proud to be Bernie's wife," Sanders' wife said in her response. "Your perception couldn't be more wrong. Have you ever talked with him? You've never spoken w/me.”

Reid's reference to early writings may have been to a 1972 essay Sanders wrote in a Vermont newspaper, which resurfaced in a Mother Jones article in 2015.

“A woman enjoys intercourse with her man -- as she fantasizes being raped by 3 men simultaneously,” one line from the essay reads.

A spokesperson for Sanders’s presidential campaign dismissed the essay at the time, calling it a "dumb attempt at dark satire in an alternative publication.”

"It was intended to attack gender stereotypes of the '70s, but it looks as stupid today as it was then," Michael Briggs told CNN in 2015.



THE FOLLOWING IS A SAMPLE OF REID’S COMMENTS ABOUT HIM.

“THE DEMOCRAT PARTY” – HMMMM. SEEMS LIKE I’VE HEARD THAT PHRASEOLOGY BEFORE, THOUSANDS OF TIMES FROM ONE CROWD ONLY – THE FOX NEWS 100% REPUBLICAN-BACKED TRASH TALKING COMMENTATORS. THAT PUTS A CERTAIN SPIN ON THE PHRASEOLOGY AND OPINIONS HERE. I THINK ALL NEWS AND COMMENTARY SHOULD HAVE THE WRITER’S NAME ON IT. IT’S COWARDLY TO HIDE THEIR FACES AS THEY TAKE SIDES FOR A GROUP WHICH THEY WOULD NEVER ACTUALLY SUPPORT – THE “DEMOCRAT” PARTY. IT APPEARS TO ME THAT HUFF POST IS SOWING SOME DISSENT HERE TO HURT SANDERS. HEY, LEAVE THAT TO PUTIN AND TRUMP. THEY CAN DO A FINE JOB OF IT WITHOUT YOUR HELP. JUST TO PROVE MY POINT, I FOUND THIS LINK BETWEEN REID AND THE REPUBLICAN/FOX CAMP: HTTP://INSIDER.FOXNEWS.COM/TAG/JOY-ANN-REID.

AND SANDERS DID HIS OWN PUBLICATION AND MEMBERSHIP DRIVE THROUGH HIS SITE ON THE INTERNET WELL BEFORE THE CAMPAIGN. THAT’S WHEN I FIRST NOTICED HIM – HIS WORDS WERE SO INTELLIGENT, BENIGN AND ENTHUSIASTIC FOR THE CAUSE OF SPREADING THE WEALTH AROUND TO ALL AND SOCIAL JUSTICE; NOT JUST TO A RACIAL GROUP, BUT TO ALL WHO ARE NOT WEALTHY. BECAUSE THE BLACKS HAVE SUFFERED MIGHTILY, A SIZABLE CHUNK OF THEM SEEM TO THINK THAT THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO HAVE. APPARENTLY BECAUSE HE HASN’T SINGLED THEM OUT FOR ATTENTION, THEY HAVE NO TRUST OR AFFECTION FOR HIM.

OR IS IT BECAUSE HE IS A JEW? I HOPE NOT. PS, I DON’T SEE MANY BLACKS GOING OUT TO SUPPORT ANY OTHER GROUP BESIDES THEMSELVES NO MATTER THE NEED, EXCEPT IN SOME CASES FOR WOMEN’S CAUSES. I ALSO HAVE NOTICED THE HOSTILITY AMONG A COUPLE OF BLM MARCHERS WHO, WHEN JOINED BY WHITES, WERE RUDE AND REJECTING. THAT HIT THE NEWS ABOUT THE TIME THAT THEY HARASSED SANDERS SO POINTLESSLY. PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH!

BERNIE DOES FOCUS ON ECONOMIC ISSUES MORE THAN IDENTITY POLITICS, BUT I AGREE WITH HIM THAT IF MANY MEMBERS OF A GROUP ARE GRINDINGLY POOR, THEY WILL BE MORE LIKELY TO BE ANTI-INTELLECTUAL, TEND TO DO DRUGS AND JOIN STREET GANGS, BE CHRONICALLY DEPRESSED, FEEL “DISSED,” ETC., ETC.; ON THE OTHER HAND, A DECENT INCOME AND MUCH EASIER ACCESS TO A GOOD EDUCATION WOULD IMPROVE THE LIVES OF THE POOR SO THAT A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF THEM WOULD FEEL LESS REJECTED AND FIND IT EMOTIONALLY EASIER TO “FIT IN” WITH WHITES AND OTHER GROUPS. THE INTERPERSONAL WORK ABSOLUTELY HAS TO BE DONE BY EVERYBODY IN THE GROUP. IF ONE MEMBER OF THAT GROUP HAPPENS TO BECOME PRESIDENT, AND IS TALL, ELEGANT, BEAUTIFULLY WELL-SPOKEN IN HARVARD ENGLISH, DON’T SAY HE IS “ACTING WHITE.”

THERE ARE NOW, OF COURSE, AND ALWAYS HAVE BEEN SOME CULTURAL MINORITY MEMBERS OF SEVERAL KINDS WHO DO NOT LET THEIR FINANCIAL CLASS, RELIGION, SKIN COLOR MAKE THEM HOSTILE AND REJECTING OF WHITES WHO ACTUALLY WANT TO MEET, GREET, RESPECT, ATTEND EVENTS WITH THEM, AND BECOME GOOD FRIENDS. PULLING TOGETHER A SOCIETY FROM A CROWD TAKES COOPERATION, GOOD INTENTIONS, OPEN-MINDEDNESS, AND SELF-EDUCATION. I LIKE THE WAY THE BLM HAS GONE OUT FOR THE VICTIMS OF POLICE VIOLENCE, BUT THEY SHOULDN’T ACT SO HOSTILE TO ALL WHITES. GROUPTHINK GOES BOTH WAYS, YOU KNOW.

PARDON ME, BUT I HAVE REALLY WANTED TO SAY THAT FOR A LONG TIME, AND THIS SNEERING PIECE BY A HUFF POST WRITER WHO DIDN’T EVEN HAVE THE GUTS TO PUT HIS OR HER NAME ON IT JUST LIT A FUSE. I’M ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO WILL BE NO FRIENDLIER TO SOMEONE WHO IS RUDE TO ME THAN THEY ARE BEING TO ME. I HEARD A MAN SAY SOME YEARS AGO, “THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO TREAT A PERSON EXACTLY THE WAY THEY TREAT THEM.” I ALWAYS TREAT PEOPLE IN A FRIENDLY WAY, AND I MEAN IT, BUT IF I’M DISSED IN RESPONSE TO THAT I DON’T TRY WITH THEM MANY MORE TIMES. I ELIMINATE THEM FROM MY MIND. IF THAT’S WHAT PEOPLE WANT, THEN SO BE IT. MY WAY IS TO RELATE ONLY TO INDIVIDUALS RATHER THAN CLIQUES; AND I DON’T ELIMINATE ANYBODY BECAUSE OF THEIR SKIN COLOR, ONLY FOR THEIR ATTITUDE.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/demexit-already-we-cant-miss-you-if-you-wont-go_us_5988d2b0e4b08a4c247f2501
Bernie Sanders Supporters Should Hurry And DemExit
We in the party can’t miss you if you won’t leave
08/07/2017 05:41 pm ET Updated Aug 08, 2017

Recently, MSNBC host Joy Reid came under fire from Bernie Sanders supporters for her tweets comparing them to bad college roommates. Despite the Berniebros objections, Joy’s tweets were spot on. Bernie used the resources of the DNC to get a following he never had in his decades in Congress. Reaching people that he was never able to reach as a congressman from Vermont. And now that he’s built his following, he doesn’t care one bit about the Democrats who allowed him in their party. And his supporters keep threatening to leave the party they haven’t joined if the Democrats don’t give them everything they want and only nominate candidates that pass their purity tests.


Joy Reid
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@JoyAnnReid
Replying to @JoyAnnReid
Bernie and his followers are like that college friend who stays at your place for weeks, pays $0, eats your food & trashes your aesthetic.
2:13 PM - Jun 12, 2017
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Joy Reid
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@JoyAnnReid
Replying to @JoyAnnReid
Parties are like apartments. You chip in or you're a visitor. Feel free to bring wine when you drop by but don't tell me how to decorate.
2:10 PM - Jun 12, 2017
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Even as we are in the beginning of the Trump administration with Republican majorities in congress, Bernie and his supporters want to bash the Democrat party which may be the last wall stopping republican policies. Republicans want to cut over 600 billion (that’s billion) from Medicaid and the Children’s Health Insurance Program. This cut alone will affect millions. They propose additional cuts to food stamps, energy assistance, and social security disability. They even proposed cuts to Meals on Wheels. They propose cuts to almost every federal agency, which means cuts to middle class federal employees and government contractors. It’s scary times for the poor and middle class in this county.

But instead of uniting, we get the woulda/coulda/shouldas from Bernie and his supporters, and the threats ― again ― of DemExit from a party they repeatedly claimed they weren’t part of. If the Democrats wanted Bernie, they would have voted for him. But he lost African Americans voters 77 percent to 23 percent. He also ran poorly among Hispanic voters. The only demographic that Bernie won was the under-25 vote, and millennials don’t turn out in the numbers needed to win elections.

The DNC even tried a unity tour with Bernie Sanders. But it was obvious from day one that Sanders wasn’t trying to unite. Most of these events could be tea party rallies, not “unity” tours. Videos of Hillary Clinton were booed; Tom Perez was booed. Bernie gave his usual spiel about economic justice while avoiding social justice. He talked about not accepting money (Bernie became a millionaire after this latest presidential run), and how Democratic policies are failing voters (Democrats are the ones fighting to keep Medicaid, Medicare and Social Security). All those events did was create an even bigger divide between the democrats and the Sanders supporters. The only thing it made abundantly clear was that Bernie loves the spotlight as much as Trump.

Bernie and his supporters are now pushing for more caucuses instead of primaries. After all, that’s their claim: that the primaries were all rigged where Hillary won, while the caucuses where Bernie won reflected the wishes of the electorate. But caucuses are dominated by the loudest voices and the people who have the time to attend these all-day events. They leave out people who cannot take off from their jobs, people who cannot afford sitters, the elderly, and people with disabilities. Switching to caucuses is not the way to be more inclusive; it is a way to make the smaller, louder factions have more power.

Right now, African American women have the highest voting turnout in the Democrat party. We vote; we organize; we donate; we volunteer; we are in the middle of it all. We have leaders like Maxine Waters and Kamala Harris who are out there calling Trump on his nonsense, day in and day out. Kamala Harris is an early front runner for 2020, so it’s no surprise that Bernie supporters are already claiming they can’t support her.

I get that Bernie supporters take his loss personally, but blaming Democrats for voting for a Democrat is getting tiresome. And following Sanders and his supporters down the rabbit hole in search of the ever illusive white “working class” voter at the expense of the people who are the backbone of the DNC is offensive.

Rural voters are never going to support the Democrats. That shipped [sic] has sailed and it’s not coming back. It’s Lucy and Charlie Brown all over again. Poor whites are holding the voting football and promising if you just don’t talk about their racism, confederate monuments, Islamophobia, and homophobia they will vote for the Democrats. If Sanders, who loudly claims he isn’t a Democrat, wants to line up to kick the ball, the DNC needs to let him do it as an independent.

And if Bernie Sanders, Nina Turner, and the rest of the Berniebros are going to do a DemExit, they should do it already. Then Democrats can get back to working on the midterms. And the DNC can focus on voter turnout, voter suppression laws, and their loyal base of African American voters.

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https://www.mediaite.com/online/heres-where-hillary-clinton-got-her-out-of-context-attack-on-bernie-over-trumps-abortion-comments/
Here’s Where Hillary Clinton Got Her ‘Out of Context’ Attack on Bernie Over Trump’s Abortion Comments
by Tommy Christopher | 1:41 pm, April 1st, 2016

Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump caused a veritable outrage-gasm this week when he said, then un-said, that women seeking abortions under a legal ban should be punished, an issue that Hillary Clinton managed to also turn into an attack on her Democratic primary rival Bernie Sanders. Clinton has accused Sanders of minimizing the issue of access to abortion, an attack which Sanders says is taken out of context. In his lengthy interview with Rachel Maddow Wednesday night, Sanders spoke about the issue for a good five minutes, and here is the full context of what he said:

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Now, I will leave it to the viewer to determine just what it was that Bernie Sanders was trying to convey, and how much this context helps him. I think his overall point is that there’s a pattern of the media failing to hold Trump accountable for his positions, in favor of narrowly covering the kerfuffle of the moment. When Maddow asks him directly if he thinks the media is overreacting, Sanders says “Of course it should be mentioned.” Since he’d just spent three or four minutes denouncing the Republicans on the issue, it’s pretty clear his meaning is that the media should also be paying attention to issues like climate change.

So where did Hillary Clinton get the idea that Bernie Sanders thinks this issue is no big deal? Well, in a weird quirk of timing, Maddow taped her interview with Hillary before Trump made his comments, then taped her interview with Sanders, then went back to Hillary to get her reaction to Trump’s remarks. As a result, a good hour before Bernie’s remarks aired in full, Maddow aired this clip asking Hillary to react to what Bernie said: [GO TO WEBSITE FOR HIS COMMENTS.]

I spoke with your Democratic opponent, Bernie Sanders, after this happened and he was critical of Mr. Trump’s remark, but then he also said that this is basically another Donald Trump stupid remark, that the media will cover ad nauseam as opposed to something like the minimum wage, taxes, climate change that might be more deserving of extended attention. Do you think this was another Donald Trump stupid comment, and the media might be making too much of this?

Now, Bernie ought to have known better than to deliver the “every stupid remark” sound bite, but he did not say what Maddow says he said. It’s an open question whether Hillary ever went back and watched Sanders’ full remarks, or if she did, maybe just found Maddow’s spin appealing, but this is self-evidently the first time she heard it. What Maddow did was what we in the biz call “shopping” a quote, but in this case, it was a bad shopping trip that everyone involved should learn a lesson from.

This is an opinion piece. The views expressed in this article are those of just the author.

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